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		<title>By: Roger Dahl</title>
		<link>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-4006</link>
		<author>Roger Dahl</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-4006</guid>
		<description>Hi Mark,

Thank you for this tutorial. Did you know that it shows up as the first hit in Google on "tomato qos"? :)

If I understand things directly, there is no need to set any classifications for class Lowest since you have set Lowest as the default class. So you can get rid of both the BitTorrent and the Bulk Traffic classifications.

Thanks,

Roger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark,</p>
<p>Thank you for this tutorial. Did you know that it shows up as the first hit in Google on &#8220;tomato qos&#8221;? <img src='http://www.decimation.com/markw/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If I understand things directly, there is no need to set any classifications for class Lowest since you have set Lowest as the default class. So you can get rid of both the BitTorrent and the Bulk Traffic classifications.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Roger</p>
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		<title>By: Configuring QOS On Your WRT Router With Tomato &#124; Tech Krunch</title>
		<link>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3978</link>
		<author>Configuring QOS On Your WRT Router With Tomato &#124; Tech Krunch</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3978</guid>
		<description>[...] Good info found here: http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Good info found here: <a href="http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/" rel="nofollow">http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Irha</title>
		<link>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3973</link>
		<author>Irha</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3973</guid>
		<description>I gave up trying to cap uploads and downloads and now simply trying to increase the priority for voip. I set several individual rules such as
- match by macid of voip adapter
- match by ip address of the same
- match by sip layer7 protocol
- match by port

After all these rules, tomato still fails to classify the voip traffic. While on a call with no other significant internet activity, I can clearly see that 100% of the traffic is "unclassified" and clicking on it shows several connections to the sip port and other criteria that I matched to classify as highest. Can someone make me understand why none of the rules failed to catch my voip traffic?

I don't know if this will still help me though, as tomato can't reduce the download speed anyway, so if a download is hogging all the traffic and a voip call starts up, it probably can do nothing to make sure download will slow down to give room to voip. All the qos stuff seems to be more like a joke to me with the consumer grade routers (unless I am completely missing to see some advantages). I can't find good information anywhere on the web.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave up trying to cap uploads and downloads and now simply trying to increase the priority for voip. I set several individual rules such as<br />
- match by macid of voip adapter<br />
- match by ip address of the same<br />
- match by sip layer7 protocol<br />
- match by port</p>
<p>After all these rules, tomato still fails to classify the voip traffic. While on a call with no other significant internet activity, I can clearly see that 100% of the traffic is &#8220;unclassified&#8221; and clicking on it shows several connections to the sip port and other criteria that I matched to classify as highest. Can someone make me understand why none of the rules failed to catch my voip traffic?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if this will still help me though, as tomato can&#8217;t reduce the download speed anyway, so if a download is hogging all the traffic and a voip call starts up, it probably can do nothing to make sure download will slow down to give room to voip. All the qos stuff seems to be more like a joke to me with the consumer grade routers (unless I am completely missing to see some advantages). I can&#8217;t find good information anywhere on the web.</p>
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		<title>By: Doches</title>
		<link>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3972</link>
		<author>Doches</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3972</guid>
		<description>I realize this is quite an old posting, but the comments still seem to be active...

Setting the inbound rate limit in Tomato is probably not functioning as you imagine -- that is, it will in no way limit the incoming bandwidth you are using. All Tomato will do if this limit is enabled is *drop* packets, ultimately increasing your average latency and upping the amount of bandwidth used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize this is quite an old posting, but the comments still seem to be active&#8230;</p>
<p>Setting the inbound rate limit in Tomato is probably not functioning as you imagine &#8212; that is, it will in no way limit the incoming bandwidth you are using. All Tomato will do if this limit is enabled is *drop* packets, ultimately increasing your average latency and upping the amount of bandwidth used.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3939</link>
		<author>chris</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3939</guid>
		<description>[quote comment="3937"]Hi,

I manage small hotell and have LinkSys WRT54GS router that cover all rooms. I have problem with some guest that use a lot of download. If I upgrade it with tomato firmware, can I using QoS limit download of Any users to max 256kb/s ??[/quote]
Yes, you would simply set each IP to a separate class, and each class to 256kb/s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3937" title="View original comment"><cite>Blagoj</cite> wrote:</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3937"><p>
Hi,</p>
<p>I manage small hotell and have LinkSys WRT54GS router that cover all rooms. I have problem with some guest that use a lot of download. If I upgrade it with tomato firmware, can I using QoS limit download of Any users to max 256kb/s ??</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Yes, you would simply set each IP to a separate class, and each class to 256kb/s.</p>
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		<title>By: Blagoj</title>
		<link>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3937</link>
		<author>Blagoj</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3937</guid>
		<description>Hi,

I manage small hotell and have LinkSys WRT54GS router that cover all rooms. I have problem with some guest that use a lot of download. If I upgrade it with tomato firmware, can I using QoS limit download of Any users to max 256kb/s ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I manage small hotell and have LinkSys WRT54GS router that cover all rooms. I have problem with some guest that use a lot of download. If I upgrade it with tomato firmware, can I using QoS limit download of Any users to max 256kb/s ??</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey</title>
		<link>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3934</link>
		<author>Sergey</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3934</guid>
		<description>[quote comment="2566"]BTW, if you're using Tomato, it's best NOT to create a rule for Bittorrent, and let it default to unclassified / bulk.  So make rules for everything except BT and BT will default to whatever is your default speed for an unknown application.  This way, you use less cpu cycles on the router.

For DD-WRT, you must make a QoS for http, and for BT you have to make one as well, but create a rule yourself (based on tcp/udp and port(s) used for BT) and dont use the default provided "bittorrent" on list.  Because the default provided forces the router to analyze the data packet to determine if it is BT or not so that uses cpu cycles and can be fooled by BT encryption.

Browsing website is as fast as tomato if you create the http and bt QoS rules.[/quote]

Could you please provide what dd-wrt firmware have you been using ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="quoter_comment_header"><a href="http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-2566" title="View original comment"><cite>callous</cite> wrote:</a></p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-2566"><p>
BTW, if you&#8217;re using Tomato, it&#8217;s best NOT to create a rule for Bittorrent, and let it default to unclassified / bulk.  So make rules for everything except BT and BT will default to whatever is your default speed for an unknown application.  This way, you use less cpu cycles on the router.</p>
<p>For DD-WRT, you must make a QoS for http, and for BT you have to make one as well, but create a rule yourself (based on tcp/udp and port(s) used for BT) and dont use the default provided &#8220;bittorrent&#8221; on list.  Because the default provided forces the router to analyze the data packet to determine if it is BT or not so that uses cpu cycles and can be fooled by BT encryption.</p>
<p>Browsing website is as fast as tomato if you create the http and bt QoS rules.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Could you please provide what dd-wrt firmware have you been using ?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3906</link>
		<author>Rob</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3906</guid>
		<description>I am specifically after a QoS setup but my question is way back on the physical network setup.  In order for QoS to prioritize traffic, shouldn't my ISP's router be connected to the WAN port of the WRT54GS?

I can't get anything in or out of my WAN port.

If I connect the ISP's router to one of my LAN ports, packets get passed but I "assume" that's only because the LAN ports are just a HUB.  Is this a correct assumption?

For QoS work with an ISP's router upstream from the WRT54GS, and multiple Ethernet devices downstream from the WRT54GS, what should the network configuration look like?  And is there a blog or How To for this kind of setup somewhere?

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am specifically after a QoS setup but my question is way back on the physical network setup.  In order for QoS to prioritize traffic, shouldn&#8217;t my ISP&#8217;s router be connected to the WAN port of the WRT54GS?</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t get anything in or out of my WAN port.</p>
<p>If I connect the ISP&#8217;s router to one of my LAN ports, packets get passed but I &#8220;assume&#8221; that&#8217;s only because the LAN ports are just a HUB.  Is this a correct assumption?</p>
<p>For QoS work with an ISP&#8217;s router upstream from the WRT54GS, and multiple Ethernet devices downstream from the WRT54GS, what should the network configuration look like?  And is there a blog or How To for this kind of setup somewhere?</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Bryant</title>
		<link>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3815</link>
		<author>Jimmy Bryant</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 04:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3815</guid>
		<description>This was exactly the information I was looking for, thanks so much, it cleared up a lot of the questions I had been asking for so long, great article, good job...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was exactly the information I was looking for, thanks so much, it cleared up a lot of the questions I had been asking for so long, great article, good job&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3812</link>
		<author>Paul</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.decimation.com/markw/2007/10/03/tomato-qos-setup/#comment-3812</guid>
		<description>Wow, took your advice and removed the bulk traffic classification and everything is a lot faster
Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, took your advice and removed the bulk traffic classification and everything is a lot faster<br />
Thank you</p>
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